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anticipated pentagon investigation found

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no evidence these ufos were alien

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spacecraft but they're not ruling out

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the possibility either

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so you have a whole chapter of your book

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called are we alone in the universe so

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i'm going to ask you do you think these

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ufos are extraterrestrial in nature

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yeah so first of all um that book is a

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collection of questions we have all had

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about our place in the universe and top

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two or three questions i'm ever asked

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are are we alone in the universe so this

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is right at the center of people's core

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of curiosity that's first second um

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the

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and we so want many of those mysteries

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to be some favored

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answer that we might carry you see a

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light in the sky you don't understand

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gee i want that to be aliens visiting us

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and so in science however you want you

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look at you you rank possibilities by

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likelihood okay these navy videos you

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have to ask if they are aliens visiting

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why are they only

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visiting navy pilots how about the rest

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of earth's surface

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there are three

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billion smartphones on this planet each

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one is a high resolution color camera

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and video recorder

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so

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basically

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aliens invasions have been crowdsourced

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to the population of the planet if

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anybody's any alien is landing anywhere

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it's gonna look what else we have

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already streamed that used to be rare

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but we knew was happening all right like

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police violence and all of this if

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aliens landed you know we would have it

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it would be viral overnight but instead

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well neil knew nasa chief bill nelson

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has said that they're launching their

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own investigation into the ufos as well

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and acknowledges they don't know what

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they are either one theory is that the

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ufos could be a foreign military

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aircraft according to the new york times

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china and russia have both invested

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heavily in supersonic technology from

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what you've seen how likely is that and

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does that theory trouble you

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yeah so first of all the of the 600 700

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billion dollar budget of the pentagon i

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would want some fraction of that to to

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check out the sky and and make sure that

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there aren't threats so i'm i'm happy to

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have learned that there are government

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programs investigating these no problem

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there um

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by the way they could be foreign foreign

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craft that have achieved some level of

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aerodynamic sophistication that we have

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not i'm glad they're looking into that

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totally i have no problem with that now

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some of it i think is not explained

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simply by hypersonic technology um

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there's there's behavior of these dots

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that i don't know what that is and you

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know my first thought is it's a it's

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some kind of bug or malfunction

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of the electronics

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okay that's that would be my first

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thought not we're being observed by

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intelligent aliens from another planet

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but that's me now there seems to be

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growing bipartisan support for more

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government funding for research into

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ufos but as republican senator marco

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rubio has pointed out a stigma still

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exists around the issue which can prompt

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giggles and eye rolls on capitol hill

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how do we convince lawmakers to think

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less in terms of et and more like

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contact or interstellar

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yeah i think

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the way to destigmatize it is

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there are these things showing up in

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military radar and we don't know what

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they are anyone who is curious say let's

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go try to figure it out if you lead with

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the idea that we're being visited by

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aliens that's

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some people have that as their first

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explanation for what they don't

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understand

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but for a skeptical scientist that would

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probably be the last explanation as carl

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sagan famously said extraordinary claims

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require extraordinary evidence

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not monochromatic fuzzy navy video of

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one of the great challenges in this

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world is knowing enough about a subject

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to think you're right